https://wiki.alliedmods.net/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Gameinfo_DeprecationGameinfo Deprecation - Revision history2026-05-26T19:35:12ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.31.6https://wiki.alliedmods.net/index.php?title=Gameinfo_Deprecation&diff=5605&oldid=prevBAILOPAN at 06:04, 20 February 20082008-02-20T06:04:22Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Unfortunately, we could not add VSP mode detection because it would bump the 1.4 branch's API version, which is frozen.  We may consider adding it in the future though -- if it's something that you need, please file a feature request.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Unfortunately, we could not add VSP mode detection because it would bump the 1.4 branch's API version, which is frozen.  We may consider adding it in the future though -- if it's something that you need, please file a feature request.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">===Does this mean MM:S plugins are VSPs?===</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">No. It simply means MM:S is easier to install and maintain since the loading mechanism doesn't get broken from running the Steam update tool. We continue to hold that Metamod:Source itself offers a much more viable plugin developing framework than Valve Server Plugins, and our own plugins (such as SourceMod) will continue to require Metamod:Source. </ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">You are more than welcome to do that. We will keep distributing it as "server" so people can continue to use the gameinfo.txt mechanism. </ins></div></td></tr>
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</table>BAILOPANhttps://wiki.alliedmods.net/index.php?title=Gameinfo_Deprecation&diff=5602&oldid=prevBAILOPAN: New page: __FORCETOC__ Metamod:Source versions 1.4.3 and 1.6.0 officially deprecated the <tt>gameinfo.txt</tt> installation mechanism in support for loading as a Valve Server Plugin. This has a fe...2008-02-20T05:42:16Z<p>New page: __FORCETOC__ Metamod:Source versions 1.4.3 and 1.6.0 officially deprecated the <tt>gameinfo.txt</tt> installation mechanism in support for loading as a Valve Server Plugin. This has a fe...</p>
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Metamod:Source versions 1.4.3 and 1.6.0 officially deprecated the <tt>gameinfo.txt</tt> installation mechanism in support for loading as a Valve Server Plugin. This has a few implications for both users and developers, which are explained in this article.<br />
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=Users=<br />
By not using <tt>gameinfo.txt</tt>, Metamod:Source will no longer break on minor updates, and will not require any intervention on behalf of server administrators.<br />
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We formed a beta testing group for this release, and the new Metamod:Source loading mechanism seemed to work across the most popular plugins. However, it is possible that a plugin was written such that it will no longer be compatible with the new mechanism. If you switch to the new loading mechanism and a plugin stops working, post on the [http://forums.alliedmods.net/forumdisplay.php?f=74 forums] explaining the problem. Most likely you will have to switch to the old <tt>gameinfo.txt</tt> method until the plugin's author can correct the issue. <br />
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=Developers=<br />
Your plugin's <tt>ISmmPlugin::Load</tt> callback now occurs later in the server startup process. This means you can't hook functions like <tt>ICvar::RegisterConCommandBase</tt> and expect to see calls from the game pass through. It also means you can't intercept the game's factory calls (which would be a silly idea anyway). We could not find any public plugins that did this.<br />
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The "late load" parameter is still false. Your plugin won't be able to tell when it is loaded in Valve Server Plugin mode, so you should code assuming that the <tt>gameinfo.txt</tt> pre-emption is not available (unless you explicitly tell your users that modifying <tt>gameinfo.txt</tt> is a requirement).<br />
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Unfortunately, we could not add VSP mode detection because it would bump the 1.4 branch's API version, which is frozen. We may consider adding it in the future though -- if it's something that you need, please file a feature request.<br />
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